not to mention about saving your throat screaming loud to get more than 30W on SSB.
Quite dissapointing serious factory fooling their users saying that screwed ALC unit is made to comply with the high standards of spectrum purity and A class signal.
So what about their other radios, i.e 746, 756 or any PRO series? Are they piece of *&**(^&^ and should not be used? Kind of bullshit IMO.
At this point I need to pass my sincere KUDOS to Marios SV0CL for his priceless hints, discussion and help.
Here's a solution - SSB average power (or "talk average power" ) increase MOD, born after hours spent on examining schematic diagrams, comparing circuit details and ham radio cooperation.
Likewise as in IC-7100 low average SSB power ( but not only SSB - i.e FSK441 and JT6M ) it's the problem of too sharp ALC limiting making the ALC loop acting too fast to let the signal envelope to rise enough. And it's not the matter of MIC gain setting nor PROC value. As You probably seen on the video posted in December HERE difference in average SSB power is HUGE at first sight.
Take note that MIC gain and PROC settings remains LOW comparing to this what we can find on various websites concerning low power on SSB, and we are still within 75% of ALC scale!
WARNING : Any mistake can cause serious damage to your radio. So if You are not experienced in SMD soldering or using soldering iron at very FRAGILE enviroment - do not try to perform the operation! I will be not responsible for any damage You can make doing the MOD.
We need to prepare tantallum capacitor, magnifying glasses, and a value of 2,2-4,7uF /16V will do the job for us. The bigger capacitance, the slower ALC rise time. Test proved that 3,3uF works well and could be optimal solution, but 4,7uF will be good as well.
This time we need to add the ALC slowdown capacitor here :
Although 7300 unit is almost the same as 7100, we can see few small changes, mainly in component values.
Apart of on MOSFET transistor added ( changed vs 7100) there's no difference.
IC-7100 ALC :
IC-7300 ALC :
Open your 7300 removing both covers, and face the radio left side to You. Having speaker on the right hand, on the left You will see RF UNIT. This is the place we will work.
Take very good magnifying glasses, we will solder our capacitor between VERY small SMD elements.
Look at the MAIN unit and locate region marked RED:
Closer look at PCB :
Gently bend the legs of capacitor at desired angle, and try if they fit between the soldering points between elements before soldering.
And this is how it's look after adding the capacitor:
After soldering check the surface against any short circuit around tiny traces.
Don't forget to clean the surface with amount of IPA alcohol or similar stuff and secure the capacitor to the top of IC1501 with small piece of double sided adhesive tape, or single drop of nail enamel borrowed from your girlfriend or wife :-)
Final look :
Good luck with the mod. Please post the comment below if You'll do the mod with success.
If You feel You can't do the mod yourself, better ask a friend.
Of course You can send the radio here, I'll do it for You.
My comment is more of a question. Some Icoms have a serious problem of ALC overshoot where you set the power to a low level to drive an amplifier, say 20w, but when you first key up the radio peaks at over 100w before the ALC engages and brings the power down to 20w. Have you tested your mod to see if it causes an overshoot problem?
ReplyDeleteNo I did not.
DeleteIt was not the target of the mod, BUT as far as I know from friends some of them reporting "spikes" in 7300 out of box.
To be honest, I did not experienced any overshoots in mine - except visual observations (BEFORE I PERFORM THE MOD) - kind of peaks of PO on meter bar.
On the other hand no any ID drain current peaks/spikes or voltage drop were observed at the same time.
I am using 2SD2931 SSPA with 7 to 10W drive and 7300 for almost a Year.
BTW, signing with a ham call is nothing to be ashamed of ;-)
Good luck 73 !
The Regard my friend. No beside you accidentally information what remake ALC on ICOM 756 pro2 ?
DeleteMany thanks, great job!!!! It's just that I wanted. It's horrible to have to shout sticked at the mic in order to get only 30w. I'm trying to do the mod, it seems so simple. THANKS AGAIN!!!
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ReplyDeleteJust finished solderin my rig, testing here as i write, and itś seems to put the TX power up on SSB. Not so much as a peak power put the average seems ok too with my normal speaking voice and not just whistling.. Making more test and gathering reports tonight. OH3EVM
Terve, tnx for info, please don't forget to lower the MIC and PROC values.
DeleteIn my cases Mic gain at 25-35% and PROC at 2 max 3 is good enough but of course personal settings matters.
73!
This Type of Mod was also popular with other rigs like the TS-940. The Mod doesn't change the maximum output. It changes the average talk power. (It's called the time constant)Two different things. Many Hams are tinkers.
ReplyDeleteHi. Of course you're right. And I'll say this is obvious. Modifying radios is not a thing to newbies, so "low SSB power" is kind of mental shortcut. Will add "average" to be more specific.
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As N2GYN commented, this mod attempts to increase average power, i.e., talk power. This is different than PEP. I strongly encourage the author to be more specific than "low power on SSB." Leaving it vague will cause a flurry of responses explaining that your low power measurement is coming from using a low quality watt meter and that a high quality peak reading meter in needed (in this case it is not a PEP measurement but average power)
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ReplyDeleteThe Regard my friend. No beside you accidentally information what remake ALC on ICOM 756 pro2 ?
ReplyDeleteICOM IC-756 pro2 SSB average power MOD . There is mod ?
ReplyDeleteI put a tantalum C = 6.8 microFarad and Mic gain 50% and Comp = 4 the Id on the peak is better 20.5 A.
ReplyDeleteBefore I worked with mic gain = 70% ,Comp =6 and normally I got Id peak about 17 A max. I know .... without profesional instrumentation this is not the best, but anyway ...........
Tnx
Lorenzo (IZ0BVU)
What does ICOM say about this (apart from invalidating warranty etc)? This seems like a no brainer, so what is the downside?
ReplyDeleteI purchased a 7300 which as the dreaded ALC Overshoot problem, I see this on my Array solutions power master and also when i key my amplifier which happens to be solid state,My amplifier peaks up to 1300 watts on key down and back drops to 500 watts with 12 watts of drive power I can only use my Icom barefoot atm, The icom 7410 had the same problem...Will Icom ever learn.
ReplyDeleteHello to you I made the modification and tests on a daiwa in pep mode it makes between 120 watt and 130 watt and in mode sen pep it makes 60 watt and I am satisfy thank you to you and good day
ReplyDeleteits a 100 watt radio, your going to fry the output transistors at 130 or 140 watts
DeleteI've done this mod and the results are *FANTASTIC*, average power is way up (and this is more important than PEP), and my sig reports have dramatically improved. I've also increased output power via the service menu (just 20-40w more) with TX power hex code FF provides 120-140W PEP depending on band (it offers a bit of an edge when on mobile or field day operations)
ReplyDeleteRegarding overshoot. The IC-7300 has a horrible overshoot problem out of the box, and this problem is very apparent with certain amplifiers like the SPE, OM and Acom (overdrive warnings and PEP spikes, especially on SSB). With this mod, even at the 10w power setting will spike at 100w for a few milliseconds. Luckily there is a solution!
Acom has a simple external ALC mod solutions which 100% resolves the problem entirely (simple pot circuit to provide voltage via a 9v battery to the IC-7300 ALC jack) and you can completely control overshoot when driving an external amplifier which has no built in ALC control (such as Acom1000/1010 etc). Just contact Acom and ask them for the external ALC circuit mod for the IC-7300 overshoot problem and they should be more than happy to help!
73's!
How do you get into the service menu?
DeleteGuess what? Yet another attempt to wind everything up and forcing the audio through the designed ALC in order to sound "Louder". it all comes back to the CB mentality of loud sounds best . It doesn't. And yes the video shows the radio attached to a power meter showing an average. Dont fall for it folks.If the average ssb is forced to that power you WILL damage the PA etc eventually. More "experts that think they know better than the designers....
ReplyDeleteBefore any mod on an Icon radio, bin the stock mic or at least perform the modification, this will improve SSB things no end.
ReplyDeleteThere may be a way to mod the ALC to increase the initial modulation fast-attach feed-back path.....which will prevent initial modulation PEP over-shoot.
ReplyDeleteI was unsure if I should do the mod or not, but I decided to do it. I glad I did. There ae no negative affects on TX (splatter). Have been working DX with 100w and a vertical. Getting in solicited comments on strong signal and excellent audio. No ALC or compression over driving. Using a Heil ICM. Any questions look me up on QRZ for email address and I will be happy to answer them.
ReplyDeletegracias por la mod ahora mi power tx son maxi 100 watios nx
ReplyDelete73 tnx
insert a 3,3uF tantalum capacitor .... no changes! PEP 125 Watt AVG 5-15 Watt :-(
ReplyDeleteI took the top off the radio and saw the size of the components and said to myself, I must be totally insane to even try the mod
ReplyDeleteIt seems that the power limitation via active ALC has been removed along with Firware 1.20
ReplyDeleteWhat are your experiences with 1.20 firmware?
Jurek SP2DDV
Does this change also affect AM and FM operation?
ReplyDeleteSo what kind of capacitor value do you recommend?
Better to put 3.3 or 4.7?
I did the mod on two rigs. One with 4.7 uF, the other with 2.2 uF... After listening on another rig, I am recommending the smaller cap... It is a challenge to listen on short range, but maybe the higher cap causes a slight hick-up... Overall the ALC-concept is not too attractive to me as I have always driven PA's with slight under-power, to keep things linear... For years I have had a HF-amp (LK-550Z) with three 3-500Z tubes, and the 100 watt rigs are not able steer it above 1200 watts, which gives good linearity and no need for ALC...
ReplyDeleteI did the mod on two rigs. One with 4.7 uF, the other with 2.2 uF... After listening on another rig, I am recommending the smaller cap... It is a challenge to listen on short range, but maybe the higher cap causes a slight hick-up... Overall the ALC-concept is not too attractive to me as I have always driven PA's with slight under-power, to keep things linear... For years I have had a HF-amp (LK-550Z) with three 3-500Z tubes, and the 100 watt rigs are not able steer it above 1200 watts, which gives good linearity and no need for ALC... I agree with the observation that the way the IC-7300 is delivering power is over-cautious, and I do not grasp why it is so tightly coupled with the ALC, internally...
ReplyDeletei love it thank you for article. ive done 3 ic7300 it works very well.i can drive my sb221 to fullpower 1100watts.befor it would only load to 550-600 watts.my alpha 77sx only needs 13-14 watts for 1400watts.so thank you herb kf6bpd 2/24/2=19
ReplyDeletei love it thank you for article. ive done 3 ic7300 it works very well.i can drive my sb221 to fullpower 1100watts.befor it would only load to 550-600 watts.my alpha 77sx only needs 13-14 watts for 1400watts.so thank you herb kf6bpd 2/24/2=19
ReplyDeleteI'm not looking to create an "audio monster". I am respectful of the purpose of the ALC circuit. BUT, I do expect that with a good PEP meter a transceiver will peak at it's full rated power. My IC-7300 was reading about 60w maximum on a peak reading meter, and was barely able to properly drive my linear amplifier. I use a woodpecker to tune the amp, and found it challenging to tune because it wasn't operating at full peak power. With the mod done, I am able to drop the 7300 power to 60% and fully drive my amplifier. Mic settings are nice and mellow, and audio reports from critical ears are very good. If you choose to do this mod make sure your soldering skills are up to snuff.
ReplyDelete73 and enjoy ham radio! Kevin - VA3RCA
Very informative blog, . I really liked it and you
ReplyDeletehave mentioned almost all the possible ways, will try it
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Very interesting, good job and thanks for sharing such a good blog. Your article is so convincing that I never stop myself to say something about it. You’re doing a great job.Keep it up
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Excellent mod!Now my 7300 show's 100 watts as do my Kenwood rigs too.I never had to do the alc mod on the Kenwoods.Before the mod it was way down👎
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